移動速度によるプレイ制限の撤廃を要望します。
今まで何度もフォーラムで要望があったと思いますが改めて。
やっぱり公共交通機関利用中や、車に同乗中などもプレイしたいです。空いた時間に手軽に楽しめるのもこのゲームの醍醐味な訳ですし、なんとかしていただきたいです。
そして併せて要望したいのですが、「私は運転者ではありません。」の無意味な質問もやめて欲しいです。クリックしてもプレイ制限されますし、まったく意味がありません。
どうぞよろしくお願いします。
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後者はともかく、前者は運転手を絶対にプレイできないようにする制限を生み出さない限り無理そうです。
ながら運転をするような人は、簡単な制限の場合絶対無視しますし、モンハンNOWはどうしても画面を見る時間が長いため…うん。
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過去にポケモンGOが原因で発生した事故が何件もあったことから実装されている機能の様なので、撤廃は難しいでしょうね…
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撤廃までは行かなくとも制限判定の緩和は行って欲しいです
GPSがブレやすいエリア(例、ショッピングモール)だと一歩も動かなくても頻繁に速度制限が発生するのでストレスが溜まります
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なるほど、過去にそうした事情があったのですね。教えていただきありがとうございます。
となると制限撤廃は難しいですかね。。プレイできる時間が増えれば…と思ったのですが残念です。
であれば、無意味な質問「私は運転手では〜」だけでも無くして欲しいものです。
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確かにこのポップアップをタップしても、直ぐにプレイが再開できる訳でもないですよね。
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提案/Suggestion
Get rid of the terrible restriction of suppressing (blanking out) the field of play whenever you (i.e. your device) is moving “too fast”. Or you are out walking and go into a pedestrian underpass or under a railway bridge or whatever. The game loses sight of the GPS for 20 seconds or less and it’s “HIDE THE GAME! PENALISE THE PLAYER!”.
Just because something may have been the same since day zero, doesn’t mean it’s not a terrible idea. Because this one certainly is a terrible idea and always has been, and I cannot help but shake my head at whatever thought process got this restriction even suggested, let alone approved. It’s almost like none of the developers - or at least the product specifiers - actually play the product that gets offered up for public consumption.
Not all MHNow players are car drivers - drivers, not even passengers - but EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US gets penalised as if we were car drivers.
I know that it will come as shock to Niantic, but some countries actually have functioning public transport systems. I have not owned a car for 17 years and travel everywhere by public transport. Because in my country (adopted country), public transport works. And I play MHNow and Ingress on foot, plus public transport to wherever I happen to be going. No driving. No steering wheel in my hand. No steering wheel in one hand and mobile phone in the other hand.
Consequently, it is INFURIATING if I am hunting a particular monster (for the daily task or story task or whatever), I get on a bus or a tram - not even necessarily to play MHNow, just to get to where I am going - the tram starts moving, the entire field of play gets hidden, so that I cannot see what monsters are on the part of the playing field that is now coming into view, I get to the next stop, the game waits for 20 seconds (and sometimes more than a minute) before displaying the field of play again, and I see the monster that I am hunting just 100 metres behind me. Except that the doors are now locked again and the tram is moving onto the next stop. If the field of play were not suppressed, I would have known to jump out at the first stop.
There is absolutely no benefit to this “feature”: only detriment. And we already have to say “I am not a driver”, so what is the point of having that dialogue box if we are going to be treated as if we are driving anyway?
This restriction even kicks into place if you are cycling: using your own leg muscles, no petrol engine, no electric motor. I have even had it kick in when I have been running for a train. So much for Niantic’s touted mission statement of “it’s time to move”.
“It’s time to move … errr, but no, not as fast as that!”
Please remove this ridiculous restriction: it is all pain and no gain.
現状/Current Status
Field of play is hidden whenever the device is “moving too fast”. It is infuriating!
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Take a read, and then consider whether you’d rather not play at certain times of your journey or not play the game at all because they’re sued by people who would sue them:
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OK, yes, I read both of them. The US legal system is broken. They even make TV shows about how broken it is. Of course, they try to spin it the opposite direction about how the lawyer is the hero. But that is another story.
I also heard a story many years ago about how someone bought or hired a Winnebago, took it on a long drive, put it on cruise control and went out the back to make a sandwich. Of course, the Winnebago ran off the road and crashed.
HOWEVER, the driver took Winnebago to court and SUCCESSFULLY sued them for not having written in the owners manual that “cruise control only maintains constant velocity and that does not also auto-steer”. And this was decades ago, long before the technologies that we have now.
So instead of the judge giving the accuser a slap around the head and tell them to stop being a moron and stop wasting his time, it was the judge that should have had the slap around the head.
So, in this instance
a) expand the “I am not a driver” message to “I am not a driver, but even so, I take full legal responsibility within the current geographical jurisdiction - even if it is not my home jurisdiction - for my use of this game”
b) put two lines of code into the game that if the GPS has detected that the device is being operated within the geography of the continental United States or its various territories (or even any other territories with ridiculous laws: lookup tables are not hard to do) that the game will continue to lock up whenever you reach a high enough speed to overtake a snail, regardless of whether or not you have clicked “I am not a driver”
Yes, it is still potentially 350 million people paying the price of the actions of a few morons and a broken legal system, but that would be a great improvement upon the current system of 8 billion people paying the price of the actions of a few morons and the broken legal system of just one country out of the 204 countries of the world.
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I would feel that this will increase in cost of operation and push to users. People already complaining them charging for potions 
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No increase in cost of operation: the GPS satellites are already in place and the phone already has a GPS receiver.
And a one-time cost of writing the two lines of code and implementing the lookup table. No different to what gets done every time that there is a release of the game anyway.
An alternative to a lookup table with latitude and longitude coordinates would be to query the operator code of the network operator. Every cellular operator has a unique ID. If the cellular operator is in the lookup table of countries with ridiculous laws, then shut off the display of the playing field; otherwise let it run.
Transfer of data is not free.
Multiply that data per person across the entire playerbase.
That bandwidth is shared, so that means during peak periods, such as in the morning and evening where a lot of people are on the move due to work commutes, latency or slower server responses (which we see as stutters) will worsen or be more frequent.
Since the game is available in most of the time zones, this means bandwidth problem will likely occur nearly around the clock since some part of the world will be in the said peak periods of commute.
Someone’s gotta pay for the network costs.
Since the game is free to play, that means the cost will be borne by the players who are paying. Is this fair to them?
At worst, everyone will be slowly “motivated” to pay as time goes by and the costs rack up. Will you be “motivated” to pay for the network costs that you use?
We haven’t even talk about the electricity to carry the additional server-side processing for rapid-firing data to-and-fro players who are traversing grids at a high speed.
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The lookup table(s) would be stored on the device as part of “Download All Assets”. No server side interaction required.
And if you mean the field of play data being transferred from Niantic or Capcom’s servers, is this any different from “wide view”? Why not just cache the entire map of field of play and then allow the user to cache it locally, just like you can on Google Maps. It could even be auto-cached by the device when the daily map refresh takes place.
You have a point about the wide view.
But the lookup table, are you not referring to the monster spawns and node information? That can’t be stored as a static asset that can be downloaded one-shot, isn’t it?
Edit: Ah. I think you’re referring to coding for the regional differences. Then I doubt this will take root, since that will probably mean some unfortunate place somewhere have sparse nodes and spawn and yet still cannot enjoy high-speed hunting because their local laws don’t allow that. I think right now it’s fair to everyone: All of us are subject to the same restriction based on the lowest denominator. The one thing that cannot be balanced is the node density (player submissions) and geographical features that are out of individual players’ hands.
Pretty sure reloading the map within the same quadrants over and over again is more draining (and inefficient) than continously loading the map. Unless you drive around the world continously.
That said, there’s a better sweet spot for sure that allows for brisk walking without being blocked (because yes, that is enough) and blocking people from playing while driving.
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Im talking cost in terms of legal fees, having to beef up legal team in employees etc.
All these are not cheap.
Having a disclaimer alone wont save a grieving family
Edit: So I had a bit of time now and I’ll explain further.
A company can still be sued even if a waiver has been signed, as long they can proof that at the point of signing a waiver that was deceptive in nature or when it was obvious you were unable to understand the waiver at the time.
So what constitue as “signing”? A mere tapping of a notification? Any proof that it is you who tapped it? And since it is just a tap, can the company rigged the data to show that you have tapped? If you are still alive, you can testify yourself. What if an accident happen and a person left the world because of this. How can they proof then. That’s when a legal battle will start. Do you think the family of that person will know that he/she tapped the “waiver” in the app?
Not going into legal details much, but all the burden of proofs need to be fought in court. So, which court? Which country? Each country has their own laws. Do Niantic needs to keep a retainer in every country to prepare for all these legal suits?
So any costs involved will ultimately flow down to the players.
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I am referring to a lookup table of countries that have “ridiculous” laws, where tapping “I am not a driver” might still not be enough to prevent some moron from trying to sue Niantic because they are unable to accept responsibility for their own actions.
Country “+1” is the obvious candidate for ridiculous laws, having proven it time and again, but many countries around the world, including my own home country (+44, the “51st State”) are vying to do the same. So I would say that Niantic are perfectly within their rights to cover their arses in any jurisdiction that has “ridiculous laws”.
Everywhere else, please just let us play!
I get locked out at home a lot as i am living quite high and gps gets flacky. It might be nice if there are some elements that reduce this popup and lockout .
It might be a good idea to be able to set a homebase that you can state once in a while in which a certain area is covered to not lock you out because of gps drift. Shouldnt be too much maybe an area of 2 to 3 times the current activity circle from the spot that is marked so the game can be played from the couch without the frustration of being locked out for multiple minutes.
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A few people have mentioned costs and “transfer of data not being free”.
If it is not viable to make it available as a standard part of the game, maybe it could be a perk of the monthly gem supply or of the season pass, just like C.O.R.E. membership is in Ingress.
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