Flight Type Kinsects with Aerial Bonus do not perform follow-up attacks all the time while in Charged State

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iPhone16

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117

問題が発生する頻度/Frequency of the issue occurring

毎回/Every time

問題の詳細/Issue Details

舞踏跳躍の回数が3n-2のタイミングになると、猟虫が攻撃しない

その他の情報/Other Information

再起動では改善なし
その他の虫では同じ挙動は発生しませんでした。

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@Nhiiiiiiiiii
特定のタイプの猟虫が攻撃しないとのこと、ご報告いただきありがとうございます。
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@Nhiiiiiiiiii
本件につきまして担当のチームへ確認を行いましたところ、猟虫の性能タイプにより追撃発動の条件が異なるため、仕様であるとの回答がございました。
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Mobile Device Information(Required)*

Sony Xperia 1 VIII, Android 17

App Version(Required)*

v130

Frequency of the issue occurring

Every time

Issue Details

When using an Insect Glaive with Flight Type Kinsect with Aerial Bonus, such as the Black Diablos Insect Glaive,

After entering the Charged State for the first time in a hunt, the first Vaulting Dance or Kinsect Slash will not send out the kinsect to attack.

The observed pattern is that, there appears to be a max interval of “2 Kinsect attacks with every 3 Kinsect Slashes”, so if you performed the first 2 Vaulting Dances/Kinsect Slashes from the start of the hunt after charging up (Kinsect attacks on the second VD/KS), then you stop, then restart the VD/KS sequence and perform 3 of them in a row while still in charged state, the first VD/KS will send out the Kinsect to attack (this is the second attack out of 3 VD/KS) but not the second Kinsect Slash (start of a new set of 3 VD/KS), and the Kinsect will attack again on the third Kinsect Slash (second VD/KS of the new set of 3 VD/KS).

In other words, a Flight Type Kinsect with Aerial Bonus will only attack twice every three Vaulting Dance/Kinsect Slash during Charged State regardless of how the attack sequence is executed even when ensuring that the Kinsect is available for follow-up attacks in the air.

Insect Glaives with Flight Type Kinsect with Follow-Up Bonus (e.g. Rathalos Glaive) or Charged Harvest Bonus (e.g. Seregios Glaive) do not have this issue. Their Kinsects will consistently attack with follow-up attacks on every Vaulting Dance/Kinsect Slash during Charged State.

Translation by ChatGPT

When using an Insect Glaive with a “Flight” Kinsect Type and “Aerial Bonus” Kinsect Bonus (e.g., Black Diablos’ “Thanatos Glaive”), the Kinsect does not perform a follow-up attack on the first “Vaulting Dance” or “Kinsect Slash” performed after entering the Charged State for the first time after the hunt begins.

From the observed behavior, it appears that the number of Kinsect follow-up attacks is limited to “a maximum of 2 times per 3 Vaulting Dances / Kinsect Slashes”.

Specifically, the following occurs:

  1. After the hunt starts, enter the Charged State for the first time.

  2. When performing “Vaulting Dance / Kinsect Slash” twice, the Kinsect does not follow up on the 1st attack, but does follow up on the 2nd attack.

  3. After that, pause attacks temporarily.

  4. While maintaining the Charged State, perform “Vaulting Dance / Kinsect Slash” 3 times in a row again.

  5. On the 1st attack after resuming, the Kinsect performs a follow-up attack (the 3rd total attack, and the Kinsect’s 2nd follow-up attack).

  6. However, on the 2nd attack after resuming, the Kinsect does not follow up, and on the 3rd attack, it follows up again.

In other words, even if attacks are interrupted midway, the Kinsect’s follow-ups seem to repeat in a 3-attack cycle of “no follow-up → follow-up → follow-up”.

To put it another way, a Flight Type Kinsect with the Kinsect Bonus “Aerial Bonus” will only follow up 2 times for every 3 “Vaulting Dances / Kinsect Slashes” during Charged State. This phenomenon occurs regardless of whether attacks are performed continuously or interrupted midway. Furthermore, the same behavior occurs even after confirming that sufficient Kinsect stamina required for aerial follow-up attacks remains.

On the other hand, this phenomenon does not occur with the following Insect Glaives:

  • Insect Glaives with a Flight Type Kinsect and the Kinsect Bonus “Follow-Up Bonus” (e.g., Rathalos’ “Flame Glaive”)

  • Insect Glaives with a Flight Type Kinsect and the Kinsect Bonus “Charged Harvest Bonus” (e.g., Seregios’ “Cheeda Albalg”)

With these Insect Glaives, the Kinsect consistently performs a follow-up attack every time a “Vaulting Dance / Kinsect Slash” is performed during Charged State.

Other Information

Nothing can be done to overcome this issue.

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@Stampeder
Thank you for the detailed information regarding this behavior with Kinsect Slash.

Upon checking this with the development team, we’ve confirmed that this is intended behavior, as the conditions for triggering follow-up attacks differ depending on the Kinsect Performance Type. While we are unable to disclose specific details, we truly appreciate your understanding.

Do feel free to post on the Forum if you’ve noticed anything else.

Thank you for the prompt response.

However, can I confirm that the Kinsect’s attack pattern is correct?

I can understand that if it attacks from the second Vaulting Dance/Kinsect Slash while in charged state and consistently does so regardless of your VD/KS sequence. In other words, if it always skips attacking on the first VD/KS and will only attack on the second and third VD/KS in the combo, this is easy to understand and can be executed reliably.

But the current behaviour is that it will attack only twice out of three VD/KS, regardless of how you perform the VD/KS.

For example,

After entering charged state for the first time in a hunt, then you:

  1. Vault
  2. First VD/KS (kinsect does not attack)
  3. Land
  4. Vault
  5. First VD/KS (kinsect attacks)
  6. Second VD/KS (kinsect attacks)
  7. Third VD/KS (kinsect does not attack)
  8. Land
  9. Vault
  10. First VD/KS (kinsect attacks)
  11. Second VD/KS (kinsect attacks)
  12. Land
  13. Vault
  14. First VS/KS (kinsect does not attack)
  15. Second VS/KS (kinsect attacks)
  16. Third VS/KS (kinsect attacks)
    so on and so forth…

If it attacks consistently from the second VD/KS onwards, it can be said to match the Aerial Bonus description, but the current behaviour does not match any written documentation.

Please confirm whether this attack pattern is intended.

@Stampeder
Thank you for your response.

While this is expected behavior at the moment, we will forward your report to the team for further review. If we confirm any issues, we will update this thread.

We appreciate your understanding.